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A famous quote goes "Any wisdom that fits in a nutshell, belongs there". There is no relatively simple philosophy towards defense in a complex world. Oh maybe back in 500 BC with Themistocles talking the Athenians into building a Navy ("The Walls of Wood") it worked, but not today. Know for a fact that warfare is always evolving, what is the "Cat's Meow" today is useless later on in the week. It's always something....Lasers, Drones, Hypersonic Missiles...it never ends. Unfortunately America has fallen into a malaise that is growing into physical symptoms that will eventually lead to a fatal incurable disease...morale decline. It is moral decline and not a "weak Navy or Army" that will defeat America. For all of America's technical expertise we were driven out of Afghanistan by a Taliban armed with equipment designed in the 1940's and 50's. We left behind some much modern equipment the Taliban still hasn't figured out where to start sorting the treasure from the trash. No, the debate between prioritizing one service over the other isn't America's biggest defense issue.
Brian Foley at 12:39 PM"Our No. 1 threat is China" - not so sure about this. I guess the esteemed Congress folks don't realize that large Army's still have to be dealt with and the are found on the land. How about they actually focus on passing a budget, reducing out national debt and working together.
George H at 10:24 AMWhat will it matter if the Navy continues to develop and build warships that cant fight as advertised? As well as continuing to retire ships that that can still fight such as Los Angeles class subs and Ticonderoga class cruisers? The right people are making money though including the retired Admiral class and that is important. We are led by corrupt and clueless idiots.
hoss at 10:47 AMWow pre WWII all over again. Everyone forgets that the 16 battleships the navy had to have at the expense of the Army for WWII were basically obsolete. So much so that the navy hid new battleships and the remaining and refloated Pearl Harbor battleships from the American people. Having them sail in circles off the west coast for almost a year before they could cycle them through extensive(over two years) rebuilding programs to transform them into very expensive and questionable air defense platforms. The carriers and big amphibs are the battleships of today. Made obsolete at Okinawa. Still obsolete today.., cheap chinese missiles make short range carrier battle groups useless in a war in the western pacific. Next single B2s, B52s and B1s all have the range and combat power of a $30-40 billion dollar carrier battle group at pennies on the dollar. The requirement of a larger better equiped Army then as now is required to defend all of the island bases required for the current navy and airforce to operate in the first and second island chains before the war starts. Note prior to WWII and now the Navy is hides their need for a larger Army inorder to fund current ship building. Keep in mind that the current fleet is a waste we can no longer afford. 11 carrier groups with only half of them available for six months tours at a time and then only half that time available for operations. So basically 2-3 carriers availble consistently but in reality more likely one or none. While soldiers then as now/ were availble for duration plus six months. Can't make this crap up..,
KJAI at 10:30 AM
The above comment is obtuse to say the least. The battleships at Pearl Harbor were built between 1914 and 1923 and were held over in service due to treaty obligations that prevented the construction of new ships for 15 years. Their first intended replacement was commissioned in mid-1941. They best ones were not modernized prior to the war because the navy did not want to release them to the yard for a year while the world situation was so dicey. Also they stayed on the West Coast for months because the navy lacked ocean-going tankers--it was send out the carriers or send out the battleships, not both together. Ultimately they were modernized and performed a valued ground support role for Marines fighting their way across the Pacific in 1944-45.
As for the modern situation, yes there are many large armies in the world we may need to deal with, but unless we plan to fight them in Canada or Mexico there is the matter of getting them to where they need to go. In many cases the troops can be flown in, but if that's all we plan to do then their first objective better be a munitions plant, because without heavy sealift the tanks, ammunition, supplies and other heavy equipment can't be replenished quickly enough by airlift. That's where the navy comes in.
No one knows what a modern naval war would look like because sea battles are violent and rare. There were two major surface engagements in WWI, only six carrier battles in WWII (four where the two sides where really balanced), and the only maritime war since involving major combatants was fought in 1982. Are carriers vulnerable? Maybe; but they put every enemy within their range at risk with their firepower. And until freighters can travel underwater there will be a need for a surface fleet.
Lastly a squadron of B-2s costs as much as a CVBG. Stubborn math. . . .
The US Navy is the most inept and most unprepared of our military branches. Spending more money on them is a waste of money and time in the short run.
Al Horvath at 6:53 PM